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Cumulative energy meter might still not be what you need. As I read the comment it will then mean the consumption is added to other cumulative meters, such as the P1 meter. I think that is even worse.

I read it like you should be able to have cumulative meters in different “power groups” that I hope is the same as zones. But I might be wrong…

Ahh, I missed the power group part. That may make ll the difference for a Group app :slight_smile:

A few days ago i installed the Group app. I Like the idea.
I have created 2 groups. one group with motion sensors and one group with door/window sensors.

But since then i have had 2 times a invalid signal from the app (And the last was tonight, that was not pleasant :woozy_face:)

The first was that, for some reason, the app was deactivated by homey (Maybe excessive memory usage, I don’t know). But when i reactivated the app i gave an invalid signal of both groups. That was not big issue because my alam was disarmed.
Tonight i had the second issue. My homey was restarted automatically and when it came alive and the Group app was started again it gave again a invalid signal. Now it was a problem because the alarm was ARMED. So i, and i think my neighbors, had a terrible night

Well… You now learned to test first, and if you get the result as expected for 25 times, then enable the sirens.
I think the app you’re looking for is Heimdall: https://store.homey.community/app/com.uc.heimdall
The issue you encountered was known to me, but I just get a notification***, it doesn’t bother me. I never heard of someone arming the alarm with it🙃

***) ( @Jamie ) I have all battery sensors grouped, when the app restarts, or Homey, it reports an almost empty battery, quickly followed by a 'battery is full again" notification:

Device settings:

@Jamie. I want to report an issue, but none of the github.com links are valid:
https://github.com/hive/com.groups/issues

ISSUE: As stated above here, when sensors are grouped, and Homey or < group > app has been restarted, it triggers a sensors alert, followed by an 'all sensors OK" alert

Quote:
eg. Group all your contact sensors and be able to see if any doors or windows have been left open

@Peter_Kawa, Thanx for your comment. I’am a developer so i know how to test. But i also know that not everything works always as planned.
I know heimdal but my alarm is working perfect so i don’t use it. The only thing is that I have a lot of door/window and motion sensors. And since a flow can only have one trigger, a have lots of flows just for that. So i thought i could use the Group app for that.

I understand you were surprised by this issue which doesn’t occur when things just runs fine.
And because a single sensor doesn’t report an alert followed by an “all fine” signal after a app crash or reboot, and the < group > app does as we have discovered.
To me this is a bug, or a feature which can’t be enabled/disabled.

An alternative way is using the native “devices” trigger card…
Then you’ll need just 2 flows.

  1. If device type is sensor and ‘sensor type’ is movement alert
  2. If device type is sensor and ‘sensor type’ is contact alert

@Peter_Kawa, the limitation of the ‘All Devices’ card is that it only works with all devices which support a specific trigger (Globaly or in a specific zone)

I don’t get it, b/c this is exactly what Heimdall accomplishes, so you can use one flow for arming your alarm monitoring all your sensors

We don’t understand eachother, so I’ll quit. Nothing personal!
Good luck finding a solution.

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Is it possible to add changing a group of lights to a (random) color over a period of time…?

Probably yes, you can change the hue for the group of lights.
With the app Chronograph you can create transitions.

And maybe the app called Spline is interesting for you.

To set it to random colours, you can create a logics Var, type string, and enter this as text:
{{round(random(1,100))}}
Everytime you call this variable in an actioncard, it returns a random number between 1 and 100

But on the (INNR) lights, there’s a default to do the transition. I was wondering if it can be integrated as an option in the app.

The group app, does not define options - it simply forwards comands directly to the device.

As not all ‘devices’ have the option to transition - I would have to keep track of all possible device (50,000+?) and whether that option is available.

So - this isn’t something the group app will have added.

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Is the “check” necessary or would it just not work when someone tries to use a transition while it’s not an option of the device?

I think a ‘check’ is a good idea, to prevent lots of users complaining their lights of brand X don’t do what they expected them to do. I think :wink:

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Hi all,
first of all thanks for such a great app. I have one little problem. When I put devices to group (f.e. lights) there is a little delay of about 1s. (grouped lights vs ungrouped lights) It is normal? Turning on lights approximately lasts 2s with lights in a group it is about 3s which is not so good. Thanks for the answer. Jakub

Hi @Jamie i want to group my Neo Coolcam window/door sensors.

I have installed the group app, when i click on add devices > group > alarm > contact alarm > i see my sensors, when i select one or more sensors (for making the group) and press next, i receive the message, class not found? Group is not created…

I hope you can assist me?

Thanks.

Regards,
Adriaan